Thursday, December 31, 2009

FEMA death camps.

Friends, I don't want you to be stupid and I spend a lot of time explaining the difference between stupid and rational.  The latest update for stupid is that FEMA now has 3,000 fully staffed death camps just waiting for YOU.

Think about it for a minute. I had to send this to someone TWICE.  First my original response and then a secondary one.  I include both of them.

It started when I received this:

Someone loaned me a DVD on the New World Order and in that movie it mentions Internment Camps, so friend of mine and I plugged in FEMA camps on YouTube and found a lot of video clips on that subject.  Apparently there are 3000 of these camps in the USA.
On the first video with the Fema camp located in Beachgrove, Indiana  maybe we should call Senator Luger of Indiana and ask him what these barbed wire fences with large heaters and watch towers represent.  Let me know what you think.   Thanks,
 
Fema Camps
 

 

Naturally, I replied:


Yes, I might believe there are 3000 fully staffed FEMA camps sitting empty across the US that no one has noticed.  Sort of like 3,000 Area 51s, eh?

I suppose you can tell me who built them how they remain invisible from satellites, why no hunters or hikers have ever found one, and that the roads in and out are maintained by elves. But I have no obligation to believe you.  Who provides the electricity, water, sewers, food, and trash disposal for these 3,000 camps?

I am sure the government, which runs on taxes, is going to grab hundreds of thousands of citizens and terminate them so they can no longer pay taxes.  Who is going to do all this?  The police aren't.  The military isn't either, for three reasons. First, they are in Afghanistan or Iraq.  Secondly, because if they start rounding up citizens, they are smart enough to grasp that someone else is rounding up THEIR family.  But this is the best reason: the citizenry is armed. There are 500,000 soldiers and 50 MILLION armed citizens.  And of course there is not that much transportation or food available....the government is footing the bill for all of this, right?  And they are bankrupt.  Yet they are going to take a huge chunk of taxpayers and put them into welfare camps?  At whose expense?  Do you think the rest of the country will go meekly along with having the citizenry dragged away?  A civil war would ensue in minutes.  Worse, the conservatives would blame the liverals and the Christians would blame the Muslims and the whites would blame the hispanics and blacks.

You also imply that the banks are in on it because the guards get paid and they have to cash their checks. Where do they even GET the guards?  Newspaper ads? The grocery stores and dry-cleaners are in on it too. Uniforms? and the gas stations.  And the suppliers for the camps.  And no one else has noticed thousands of people driving to work every day at invisible camps.  And where do all these people and their families live?  Where do their kids go to school? 

Are there fully staffed hospitals at each of these camps which sit around and do nothing?  And fire departments?  If not, where would someone tell an ambulance to go if there was a medical emergency? Are their phones there?  Is the phone company in on it too?  Cellphones HAVE to have GPS information.  Are all the cellphone companies in on it too?

Where is the internment camp on the Big Island?  Who works there?  Aren't they related to anyone?  Do they have to take Friday off because of the economy? 

Actually, only you and your friend are scheduled to transported to a camp for termination. Everyone else in the country is part of the plot.  Maybe you can save yourselves by flying to Costa Rica tomorrow.

Did you think any of this through?  Do you understand the logistics of what you are suggesting?  Do you understand that EVERY agency of the government at every level is dysfunctional and that you cannot even get a goddamn building inspector to come out and do their job?.  We have no water or sewers, the police and fire department will not arrive until you are dead or your home is burned to the ground if they come at all.

FEMA cannot respond to the natural disasters we already have on a daily basis but they can somehow construct and coordinate 3,000 death camps for AMERICANS and only the boneheads on YouTube and various left and right-wing nutcases know about them? 

Do you believe there should be a requirement that a person have some basis knowledge of the subject matter before he (or she) is allowed to vote or a job and an ability to demonstrate individual responsibility prior to being allowed to procreate?

Can you explain to me what the 'New World Order' is about?   That is a rhetorical question.  Of course you can't. Have you ever considered hanging around with smarter people than you do now?

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Then I had to reply AGAIN.

The video clips don't show anything remotely definable as a potential prison camp. It is an Amtrak repair station and is clearly visible from Google Earth.  There are exactly the same cameras on the Hilo Wal-Mart except instead of one, there are about seven on Wal-Mart.  The orange markers on power lines are used all the way across saddle road and all across the country for that matter. They show pilots that power lines exist, but they also show where a power line is down.

Most of the private train companies went out of business in the 60s and 70s.  Only a few are left and they (Amtrak for instance)) usually require government subsidies.  It's usually cheaper to put something in a truck and deliver it straight to a destination than to load a train car, route it somewhere and then have it unloaded and still be delivered by truck.  That used to be efficient before we sent all of our jobs and manufacturing overseas and went broke.

I looked at the turnstiles with the supposed 'prison bars'. Those aren't prison bars. They are simply barriers to keep people from defeating the turnstiles.  If you look at them they are mounted quite lightly with external screws or bolts and could be disassembled in minutes.  Prisons aren't built like that.  Putting new heaters in buildings that haven't been been heated "for twenty years" doesn't seem particularly sinister either.  By definition they WERE heated until about 1990.

The comment about the barbed wire is incorrect as well.  Barbed wire angled INWARD is to keep people from getting IN.  Next time you go to Walter's, go down Paradise to 22nd and turn left.  Greg's house, about fourth on the left has the same fence.  It is not to keep him and Lita from getting out. It is to keep people from jumping the fence and getting IN.

Let's go further.  The narrator identifies this as an old Amtrak train repair station in Beach Grove Indiana. The video was taken in 2001 and the camera doesn't quite swing far enough over for me to see the Air Force number on that railroad switching engine, but I can show you what it looks like today:  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locThumbs.aspx?id=167269

 
  Amtrak bought it from the Air Force. It is still in Beach Grove Indiana moving cars around for Amtrak.

This facility is visible at the center of the photo I attached. There is a guard at the gate.  Everyone else there is working on train cars.  If you download Google Earth, which is free, you can see that there is no place to put thousands of prisoners at the Amtrak station.

I don't ask much. If you want to live in an imaginary world of conspiracy and drama, be my guest.  But if you pass on something that is completely stupid, makes no sense and is physically impossible, you may expect to hear why.

I do not live in the lower median of intelligence, or the lower half of the upper median; or even the lower half of the top tenth of the upper median and I don't want to spend time telling people things they don't want to hear.  Contrariwise, I don't want to hear that 'liberals", because they accept homosexuality as a genetic problem and not a lifestyle choice, or don't want to hear prayers to an invisible pal in the sky who will never change the physical laws of the universe to appease one admitted unworthy supplicant, are involved in some sort of plot to form a New Word Order in which only rich people live and everyone else is exterminated.

I am rarely intellectually intimidated in anyone's presence; thus my practical measure of intelligence is how closely they agree with me; or whether they can change my mind on the most scientifically provable issue we can discuss in common. 

a hui hou.


"The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts... the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
~Edmund Burke

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