My knee still hurts and some flesh-eating bacteria has eaten half my face off. Sure, it's an improvement - but that's not the point. The doctors have been trying to cure it for two years and they can't. I finally got pissed and figured out how to cure it myself- but I'm not going to until I see the dermatologist again Wednesday and give him shit.
And my computer had been down for two days while I have been repairing everyone else's. I fixed it this morning. So....if this reply sounds a little snippy, don't take it personally, ANYONE - and if you can stand a shameless plug, I AM FIXING COMPUTERS AGAIN.
I replied to this very comment earlier and I'll include that reply. I thank John for his comment which is accurate. New comment on your post "Hawai`i: A Nice Place to Wait Out "Armageddon""
Author : JohnD
I replied to this very comment earlier and I'll include that reply. I thank John for his comment which is accurate. New comment on your post "Hawai`i: A Nice Place to Wait Out "Armageddon""
Author : JohnD
Comment:
Tom, There is an important distinction between a Democracy and a Republic and your use of these terms should be carefully considered if it truly the aim of this blog to create solutions. John Adams put it succinctly.A Democracy while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. That, as a republic is the best of governments, so that particular arrangements of the powers of society, or, in other words, that form of government which is best contrived to secure an impartial and exact execution of the laws, is the best of republics. Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty. John Adams "51% of the vote is democracy. The 49% agreeing to go along until they get a majority is called a Republic"This opens the door to unlimited Tyranny by majority. This was what The Framers of the United States Constitution specifically condemned. Constitutional Conventions, for either ratification or framing, is arguably one of America’s greatest contributions to the mechanics of government."By conventions of representatives, freely, fairly, and proportionately chosen ... the convention may send out their project of a constitution, to the people in their several towns, counties, or districts, and the people may make the acceptance of it their own act." John Adams
Tom, There is an important distinction between a Democracy and a Republic and your use of these terms should be carefully considered if it truly the aim of this blog to create solutions. John Adams put it succinctly.A Democracy while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. That, as a republic is the best of governments, so that particular arrangements of the powers of society, or, in other words, that form of government which is best contrived to secure an impartial and exact execution of the laws, is the best of republics. Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty. John Adams "51% of the vote is democracy. The 49% agreeing to go along until they get a majority is called a Republic"This opens the door to unlimited Tyranny by majority. This was what The Framers of the United States Constitution specifically condemned. Constitutional Conventions, for either ratification or framing, is arguably one of America’s greatest contributions to the mechanics of government."By conventions of representatives, freely, fairly, and proportionately chosen ... the convention may send out their project of a constitution, to the people in their several towns, counties, or districts, and the people may make the acceptance of it their own act." John Adams
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recognize as 'good' or 'bad' rather than to be grammatically precise.
I do that quite a lot - many times simply through laziness.
Ain't it the truth!
Yes, that is correct. But the majority of Americans are educated
thusly: So it is better, in my opinion, to write words that people at leastrecognize as 'good' or 'bad' rather than to be grammatically precise.
I do that quite a lot - many times simply through laziness.
(I'd like to claim The Bard as my inspiration, but it was actually Humpty Dumpty.) I just finished a rant about the President which had rather obvious
racial overtones. I live in Hawaii - we are the most liberal and
racially mixed state in the US - but adding that nonsense will make
people read the message two or three times - and think about it - and
probably reply to it. Not because of the message - but because I
held their attention and tweaked their emotions.After I have their attention I can work on specifics.The effective revocation of the Constitution itself by the 'Patriot'
act opens the door to unlimited tyranny. Constitutional conventions
are no longer effective by virtue of the fact that the powers-that-be
simply ignore the Constitution."I'ts just a damn piece of paper".
-G. 'Dubya' Bush
Again - this isn't pointed at any one person. But I tend to answer Thomas in the first person and I try to answer everything he writes - because he is able to hit the crux of the matter every time, and he writes well. Thus he is the perfect person for me to point/counterpoint with - and I wish I had known his writing five years ago. I respect and value him as a caring human, as a person, as a hard worker, as an honest man - and as my friend. And he and I write to YOU - not to each other.
racial overtones. I live in Hawaii - we are the most liberal and
racially mixed state in the US - but adding that nonsense will make
people read the message two or three times - and think about it - and
probably reply to it. Not because of the message - but because I
held their attention and tweaked their emotions.After I have their attention I can work on specifics.The effective revocation of the Constitution itself by the 'Patriot'
act opens the door to unlimited tyranny. Constitutional conventions
are no longer effective by virtue of the fact that the powers-that-be
simply ignore the Constitution."I'ts just a damn piece of paper".
-G. 'Dubya' Bush
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 13:29, Thomas <wordpress@hawaiinewsdaily.com> wrote:
> New comment on your post "Hawai`i: A Nice Place to Wait Out "Armageddon""
> Author : Thomas
> E-mail : @gmail.com
> Comment:
> Here is an explanation that stuck with me.
>
> Founding fathers on banking.....
> What is the difference between a republic and a democracy....do you know?
>
>
> By: FDRS
>
> ShareThis
>
> In a Republic, you have natural, God-given rights. The natural rights of the minority are protected by the Bill of Rights from majority "mob rule". In a jury trial, just one dissenting juror can prevent you from being deprived of your rights.
>
> In a democracy, the majority rule. Instead of natural rights, you have civil rights bestowed upon you as a "privilege" granted by the majority. If the majority, on any whim, decides to vote 51%-49% in favor of taking away any of your unalienable rights, so be it. A democracy is a dictatorship of the majority.
>
> Today's Amerika is a fascist/communist state, not a Republic
>
> Actually Washington D.C., that 10 square miles you read about in the constitution, is area controlled by the Legislative Democracy known as the UNITED STATES. They incorporated in 1871 in England. The UNITED STATES, USA, WE THE PEOPLE, The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, etc., were titles copyrighted at that time under the English copyright system.
>
> The constitution was also made to be their bylaws which is why it is of no effect today. The Res Publica, the Public Thing, hasn't vanished. It remains to be claimed.
>
> The citizens of that 10 square miles are known as the 1st Amendment citizens. They have no rights but only privileges administered unto them by the body politic you know as Congress. Congress has power only in that 10 mile square district of Columbia and territories. These words have different meanings than the ones you've learned in your 'public,' indoctrination, schools.
>
> Republic vs. Democracy
> Rule by Law vs. Rule by Majority
>
> Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, Benjamin Franklin said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
>
> Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.
>
> A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).
>
> Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the three banches of government, the Supreme Court and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob. A more recent example was the failure of the US Senate to uphold their oath "to do impartial justice" and remove bill clinton from office. Those Senators should be removed themselves, for failure to uphold their oath and for aiding and abetting a known criminal. If you would like to help remove them, E-mail me.
>
> Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.
>
> Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.
>
> Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,
>
> "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",
>
> "We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)
>
> "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
>
> Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.
>
> DEMOCRACY:
> * A government of the masses.
> * Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" _expression.
> * Results in mobocracy.
> * Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.
> * Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
> * Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
>
> REPUBLIC:
> * Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.
> * Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.
> * A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
> * Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
> * Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
> * Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.
>
> The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed without explanation about the same time that President Franklin D. Roosevelt made private ownership of our lawful money (US Minted Gold Coins) illegal. Shortly after the people turned in their $20 gold coins, the price was increased from $20 per ounce to $35 per ounce. Almost overnight F.D.R., the most popular president this century (elected 4 times) looted almost half of this nation's wealth, while convincing the people that it was for their own good. Many of F.D.R.'s policies were suggested by his right hand man, Harry Hopkins, who said,
>
> "Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect, because the people are too damn dumb to know the difference".
>
> You can see all comments on this post here:
> New comment on your post "Hawai`i: A Nice Place to Wait Out "Armageddon""
> Author : Thomas
> E-mail : @gmail.com
> Comment:
> Here is an explanation that stuck with me.
>
> Founding fathers on banking.....
> What is the difference between a republic and a democracy....do you know?
>
>
> By: FDRS
>
> ShareThis
>
> In a Republic, you have natural, God-given rights. The natural rights of the minority are protected by the Bill of Rights from majority "mob rule". In a jury trial, just one dissenting juror can prevent you from being deprived of your rights.
>
> In a democracy, the majority rule. Instead of natural rights, you have civil rights bestowed upon you as a "privilege" granted by the majority. If the majority, on any whim, decides to vote 51%-49% in favor of taking away any of your unalienable rights, so be it. A democracy is a dictatorship of the majority.
>
> Today's Amerika is a fascist/communist state, not a Republic
>
> Actually Washington D.C., that 10 square miles you read about in the constitution, is area controlled by the Legislative Democracy known as the UNITED STATES. They incorporated in 1871 in England. The UNITED STATES, USA, WE THE PEOPLE, The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, etc., were titles copyrighted at that time under the English copyright system.
>
> The constitution was also made to be their bylaws which is why it is of no effect today. The Res Publica, the Public Thing, hasn't vanished. It remains to be claimed.
>
> The citizens of that 10 square miles are known as the 1st Amendment citizens. They have no rights but only privileges administered unto them by the body politic you know as Congress. Congress has power only in that 10 mile square district of Columbia and territories. These words have different meanings than the ones you've learned in your 'public,' indoctrination, schools.
>
> Republic vs. Democracy
> Rule by Law vs. Rule by Majority
>
> Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, Benjamin Franklin said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
>
> Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.
>
> A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).
>
> Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the three banches of government, the Supreme Court and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob. A more recent example was the failure of the US Senate to uphold their oath "to do impartial justice" and remove bill clinton from office. Those Senators should be removed themselves, for failure to uphold their oath and for aiding and abetting a known criminal. If you would like to help remove them, E-mail me.
>
> Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.
>
> Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.
>
> Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,
>
> "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",
>
> "We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)
>
> "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
>
> Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.
>
> DEMOCRACY:
> * A government of the masses.
> * Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" _expression.
> * Results in mobocracy.
> * Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.
> * Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
> * Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
>
> REPUBLIC:
> * Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.
> * Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.
> * A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
> * Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
> * Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
> * Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.
>
> The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed without explanation about the same time that President Franklin D. Roosevelt made private ownership of our lawful money (US Minted Gold Coins) illegal. Shortly after the people turned in their $20 gold coins, the price was increased from $20 per ounce to $35 per ounce. Almost overnight F.D.R., the most popular president this century (elected 4 times) looted almost half of this nation's wealth, while convincing the people that it was for their own good. Many of F.D.R.'s policies were suggested by his right hand man, Harry Hopkins, who said,
>
> "Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect, because the people are too damn dumb to know the difference".
>
> You can see all comments on this post here:
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Here is how I really I wanted answer John, but he was too nice and he was correct - thank goodness Thomas gave me a second chance.
I am tired of being told what John Adams said. I fancy myself versed on the Constitution and I don't consider an occasional exaggeration or (more often, lately) brain fart to negate my patriotism. I try to be factually precise, but the best I can do is not lie intentionally. I know the truth is ethereal and 'facts' can be written with precision or passion and I have not the ability to do both effectively at the same time - So I cobble, but I am sincere.
I am a Marine combat veteran. A volunteer. I am proud of my service, even if it was the wrong fight. Eighteen year-old kids don't know whether it's the wrong fight or not. They either fight or they run. I fought.
I suspect very strongly that if Paul Revere rode through Puna TODAY and yelled "To arms - To arms! The British are coming", NO ONE WHO HAS LECTURED ME about what John Adams really meant - or what the Constitution really means - NOT ONE OF THEM would - or could - walk out of their own homes, onto their own property, with their own rifle, and protect their own families.
Typically that's because their wives won't let them own a firearm - but that's not my business. I don't care why people are emasculated. I care that you can talk it but you can't walk it.
I am willing to be corrected if anyone can show me their rifle - but if you can't or won't - today - right now - then I think maybe you ought to STFU about explaining the Constitution to me. I'm willing to defend it and I HAVE defended it and I am ready and willing - and capable - of defending it again. Right now.
If you can't answer the call to do your civic duty as an armed militiaman and protect your home and country - or me - when the time comes, you'd never get into the same room as John Adams and most of you probably won't get into mine anytime soon, either.
Again - this isn't pointed at any one person. But I tend to answer Thomas in the first person and I try to answer everything he writes - because he is able to hit the crux of the matter every time, and he writes well. Thus he is the perfect person for me to point/counterpoint with - and I wish I had known his writing five years ago. I respect and value him as a caring human, as a person, as a hard worker, as an honest man - and as my friend. And he and I write to YOU - not to each other.
Good on ya, Thomas. PLEASE keep in mind that we are writing for the rest of the world - not for each other - don't stop until we have won.
Respectfully,
Tom
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