Today's 'Birther' nonsense.
Every member of Congress has received a certified copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate
Every member of Congress has received a certified copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate procured from Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya
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The Constitution does not define 'natural born'. READ IT!John McCain was born in Panama. The last time I checked, that was a foreign country. Obama's mother was an American citizen. No matter WHERE he was born, he is a citizen. He could have been born on the moon and his father could have been the Big Cheese and he is still not going to be tossed out of office.Congress cannot impeach him for where he was born. It is not within their power!How many times do I have to explain this? We can VOTE him out, and I'll be the first in line, but he is not going to be 'disqualified'. FORGET IT! IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! Once the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a BUSH APPOINTEE, swears him in, it's a done deal. If the Bush Republicans and the Clinton Democrats couldn't get him disqualified...and one assumes that they would have had the CIA forge any bullshit possible if they could have got away with it...then there isn't anything there.
If a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.
The Wall Street Journal said: "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."
The National Review wrote: "The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
But there's more. Explain to me how a white mother under the age of 18 who could not have had a US Passport could (1) get to Kenya at all and then (2) get a black British baby from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961. There were no jet airplanes and there were no direct flights from Kenya to the US.
To take seriously the myth that Obama was born in Kenya requires a number of broad assumptions. First, that his mother had a passport in 1961. Obama has said that she did not, and that she applied for her first US passport when they were about to go to Indonesia. Obama also applied at the time, he says, and since he did travel to Indonesia and Indonesia says that he never had an Indonesian passport (call the Embassy to check), it is logical that he traveled on a US passport.
Obama indicated that his mother did not have a passport in his first book. The allegations and facts in this were undoubtedly checked by the Bush Administration when Obama announced his bid for presidency. They would know from their files (which, by the way, were not altered or deleted in the break-in) either that she did or did not have a passport in 1961. If she did have one, they would have indicated that fact as a way of showing that Obama lied and that he could have been born in Kenya. They said nothing. The most likely reason is that it is true that Obama’s mother did not have a passport in 1961.
But, say that she did have a passport at that time, and say that she had gone to Kenya despite the expense and risk. Say that Obama was born in Kenya. Then, how did he get from Kenya to the USA without some kind of a US travel document? I mean, we do not allow foreign-born infants into our country (especially not black ones in 1961) without some kind of visa or US passport or the inclusion of him on his mother’s passport.
If there were such a document, an application for a US visa or to change his mother’s passport to include him. There would be a record of the application, and it would have been found. The Bush Administration made no such discovery.
So, we have:
1) An official Hawaii document that shows Obama was born in Hawaii.
2) Repeated confirmations by the officials in Hawaii that he was born in Hawaii
3) A witness who recalls being told about his birth in Hawaii.
4) His Kenyan grandmother saying at least once that he was born in Hawaii and no evidence that she said that he was born in Kenya or that he was born in a Kenyan hospital or that she was present in the place where he was born.
5) No official Kenyan documents showing that Obama was born in Kenya (except for obvious forgeries).
6) No US documents showing that Obama traveled from Kenya to the USA in 1961.
There are NO official Kenyan government records. But, there are several obviously forged Kenyan “birth certificates.” There is not a single African newspaper account that said that it knew that Obama was born in Kenya based on any document or source. There is, in contrast, the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, which the officials in Hawaii have confirmed the FACTS on twice.
Re: “” Birth registration in Hawaii falsified by Grandma Dunham who lived there to illegally get her new foreign born grandson U.S. Citizenship”
Hawaii did not then and does not now issue a birth document of any kind that says on it ‘born in Hawaii”unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii. Obama’s says that he was born in Hawaii, and this fact was confirmed twice by the officials of the Department of Health and the Department of Vital Records of Hawaii, and this in turn was confirmed by the governor of Hawaii, a Republican.
The claims that Obama’s Certification were forged were checked out by the McCain Campaign and found to be false. Only two guys who would not give their real names made them anyway. Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii in the taped interview, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of the birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
Andrew Walden, a conservative columnist and blogger who lives in Hawaii, put it this way:
For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to the West Coast - to the East Coast - to Mombasa via europe, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai`i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawaii’s current Republican Governor, Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr – among them US Rep. Neil Abercrombie. All without either the mother or the child having any papers.
In 1961, the roundtrip flight to Kenya (there was no jet service, remember?) would have been a very expensive, pointless, and time consuming epic journey (at least several days and probably a week) for two starving students. Barack Obama Sr. had only been able to come study at UH Manoa with a free ticket on a donated charter flight with other Kenyan students.
Meself, also a prominent blogger in my own mind, puts it this way.
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